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Krill will not change this club at all. He is not a game changer in the NHL in any way. I see a third liner that ends up in the K for triple the money he can get in NA..

Sorry, but he is what he is.

Krill will not change this club at all. He is not a game changer in the NHL in any way. I see a third liner that ends up in the K for triple the money he can get in NA..

Sorry, but he is what he is.
- bixll

way to pass a final grade on a player who just finished juniors...good to see that he is a final product already

way to pass a final grade on a player who just finished juniors...good to see that he is a final product already
- NYI78

I am allowed my opinion, as are you.

I did not think that as a 20 yr old in a jr league he was dominating...and he should have been.

55 pts in 50 games is hardly dominating..he was out scored by several 16 yr olds in the league and he was on a better team, that was geared for the Mem Cup run they were hosting. He should have been well over 100 points..

So, NO, I do not think he will be a game changer in the NHL...

The Islanders just got an infusion of winning mentality!

I am allowed my opinion, as are you.

I did not think that as a 20 yr old in a jr league he was dominating...and he should have been.

55 pts in 50 games is hardly dominating..he was out scored by several 16 yr olds in the league and he was on a better team, that was geared for the Mem Cup run they were hosting. He should have been well over 100 points..

So, NO, I do not think he will be a game changer in the NHL...
- bixll

he's 20 in july..my point is you can't judge players out of juniors as finished products...i just think your being a little quick to judge..

Krill will not change this club at all. He is not a game changer in the NHL in any way. I see a third liner that ends up in the K for triple the money he can get in NA..

Sorry, but he is what he is.
- bixll

Shhhhhhh, don't you dare say that on here!

he's 20 in july..my point is you can't judge players out of juniors as finished products...i just think your being a little quick to judge..
- NYI78

Why can't you?? The Isles need to do it more.. Waiting for a player to become good after 2 or 3 years is crazy.. They ether have it or not.. Most great players are great players from the start, you can see it..Look at JT. You could tell from day one, he was a player that had superior skills and would work hard on the skills he needed to to be that Game Changer.. All the great players dominated in the leagues before they came to the NHL.

RNH will be 19 next year and be in the second year of his NHL tenure. He is a game changer..

If your not dominant in the Jr leagues, the odds of you dominating in the NHL are very friggin slim....Microscopic..

RNH will be 19 next year and be in the second year of his NHL tenure. He is a game changer.. If your not dominant in the Jr leagues, the odds of you dominating in the NHL are very friggin slim....Microscopic..
- bixll

really?? how about the thousand of kids who were dominant in juniors and stunk in the nhl?? it works both ways. i don't know what kabanov will develop into and it probably won't be a top end player but to just throw down a blanket statement like that is horribly misguided...and to compare him to the first pick in the draft like RNH is comical...

really?? how about the thousand of kids who were dominant in juniors and stunk in the nhl?? it works both ways. i don't know what kabanov will develop into and it probably won't be a top end player but to just throw down a blanket statement like that is horribly misguided...and to compare him to the first pick in the draft like RNH is comical...
- NYI78

Fine, your right I am wrong, He will be a star..Mark it down..He will lead the Isles to the promise land..in 3 or 4 years after he develops..

really?? how about the thousand of kids who were dominant in juniors and stunk in the nhl?? it works both ways. i don't know what kabanov will develop into and it probably won't be a top end player but to just throw down a blanket statement like that is horribly misguided...and to compare him to the first pick in the draft like RNH is comical...
- NYI78

Why, who do you compare him too. Timmy in AAA Midget this year is not near as good and Kirill..That better.

Others are allowed to have opinions that differ from yours..

Why, who do you compare him too. Timmy in AAA Midget this year is not near as good and Kirill..That better.

Others are allowed to have opinions that differ from yours..
- bixll

you have an opinion to judge him at 19 and i have the right to think your nuts...fine lets agree to disagree

Fine, your right I am wrong, He will be a star..Mark it down..He will lead the Isles to the promise land..in 3 or 4 years after he develops..
- bixll

i never said he would be a star in anything i wrote..for the record

Krill will not change this club at all. He is not a game changer in the NHL in any way. I see a third liner that ends up in the K for triple the money he can get in NA..

Sorry, but he is what he is.
- bixll

I have to for once disagree with you in a big way.

XxNYIxX

Why can't you?? The Isles need to do it more.. Waiting for a player to become good after 2 or 3 years is crazy.. They ether have it or not.. Most great players are great players from the start, you can see it..Look at JT. You could tell from day one, he was a player that had superior skills and would work hard on the skills he needed to to be that Game Changer.. All the great players dominated in the leagues before they came to the NHL.

RNH will be 19 next year and be in the second year of his NHL tenure. He is a game changer..

If your not dominant in the Jr leagues, the odds of you dominating in the NHL are very friggin slim....Microscopic..
- bixll

But wait.. who ever said he was going to be a "Dominating" superstar? no one expects him to be JT or RNH.. but a first/second line wing... not out of the question.

XxNYIxX

But wait.. who ever said he was going to be a "Dominating" superstar? no one expects him to be JT or RNH.. but a first/second line wing... not out of the question.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Is it far fetched to think he can be a PA type player?

Is it far fetched to think he can be a PA type player?
- ses111

No. If he's not on Gretzky's level soon, he can blow me. By next year, too.
I expect our 3th round pick from 2 years ago to be as good as Nugent-Hopkins and Tavares by next year.

Why, who do you compare him too. Timmy in AAA Midget this year is not near as good and Kirill..That better.

Others are allowed to have opinions that differ from yours..
- bixll

The thing is you're not right and you're not wrong. Alot of Islander fans(more so the younger ones) have the fear of "Milburyism" where they think that every draft pick may pan out to some incredible player some day after we give up on them. This is exactly what present ownership/management wants us to believe and its what alot of fans presently do, even me to an extent... The Moulsons and Grabners are few and far between and Snow deserves (I'm going to hell)kudos for picking up on these players but there are fans that think Kabanov, Petrov and all these other picks as untouchable commodities. They believe the nonsense that they read on line(Like this site) and actually take it with a grain of salt. I like a particular blogger on here that does his draft thing and his prospect watch(its entertaining) and whatever but some on here(the Isles blog) actually take it as the truth! lol. Let me tell you and everyone else on here something. 9 times out of 10 you know when you have a "game changer" "real" player. You want to make believe Kirill Petrov(oh its his mom, thats why....lol) is going to come over here and lead us to the playoffs keep doing it, I was laughing at that shat all a long. You have to read stuff and decipher whats real and whats not, we all go on the same info. Yeah, I'm the sky falling guy. Fine. XXxXX is the kool aide guy, great. All I have to say is where are we now? Where do you really expect us to be at this time next year? Bixill, I will bet money you are right. These guys bury their heads in the sand and want to keep some kind of make believe thing alive? I don't understand why?




Sorry for the long post. BBQ went laqte and the old lady hates me more than you all do!

The thing is you're not right and you're not wrong. Alot of Islander fans(more so the younger ones) have the fear of "Milburyism" where they think that every draft pick may pan out to some incredible player some day after we give up on them. This is exactly what present ownership/management wants us to believe and its what alot of fans presently do, even me to an extent... The Moulsons and Grabners are few and far between and Snow deserves (I'm going to hell)kudos for picking up on these players but there are fans that think Kabanov, Petrov and all these other picks as untouchable commodities. They believe the nonsense that they read on line(Like this site) and actually take it with a grain of salt. I like a particular blogger on here that does his draft thing and his prospect watch(its entertaining) and whatever but some on here(the Isles blog) actually take it as the truth! lol. Let me tell you and everyone else on here something. 9 times out of 10 you know when you have a "game changer" "real" player. You want to make believe Kirill Petrov(oh its his mom, thats why....lol) is going to come over here and lead us to the playoffs keep doing it, I was laughing at that shat all a long. You have to read stuff and decipher whats real and whats not, we all go on the same info. Yeah, I'm the sky falling guy. Fine. XXxXX is the kool aide guy, great. All I have to say is where are we now? Where do you really expect us to be at this time next year? Bixill, I will bet money you are right. These guys bury their heads in the sand and want to keep some kind of make believe thing alive? I don't understand why?




Sorry for the long post. BBQ went laqte and the old lady hates me more than you all do!
- Cptmjl

Te best thing to do is not get too high or low over these prospects. Especially if the Isles continue to rush some of these kids and continue to hire coaches like Cappy. If the Isles start doing the right things and hire the right coach these prospects may have a good chance. Wang and Snow have to understand just drafting these kids is only part of the process.

I'm not quoting any particular poster, and my last post was certainly over the top, but the OP in this thread is a joke. Who (frank)ing knows?

Some people, scouts and GMs thought pretty damn highly of guys named Patrik Stefan and Alexander Daigle that they were both drafted first overall in their respective years of the draft. What happened? They are 2 of the biggest busts in the recent history of the league, I think even the casual fan knows that.

Some people also thought low enough about players like Henrik Lundqvist that he got drafted in the 6th round or a guy by the name of Dominick Hasek who wasn't drafted until the 9th or 10th round (can't remember exactly which).

Point being, and I'm hardly a kool-aid type, I, at this point, don't expect any of our prospects to pan out. I'm too pissed off about this past season and I'm too cynical to believe anything until I actually see it happen.
Will Kabanov be a top player? Who the (frank) knows? He might get struck by lightening tomorrow and die. He might blow his leg out. He might also totally dedicate himself to the sport he plays and gets paid to do it, finally ( I know, an immature 19-year-old, who knew?) and become an All-star. He might also be a career 4th liner, nothing more.
No disrespect intended Bixll, you seem like a nice enough poster to me, but what the hell do you know? I know you watch a lot of hockey, juniors in particular, and you see a lot of our prospects because our training camp is near where you live. I'm not going to pretend I know more than you, because I probably don't. You may be right, you may be wrong, but to kick dirt on this kid's grave seems might hasty, no? Especially for a guy as old as you. I'm (frank)ing 35, I'm not kicking dirt on some 19-year-old's NHL grave, sorry. He was a 3rd round pick, after all, so to compare him to 2 number one overall picks seems kind of out of place, no?

Te best thing to do is not get too high or low over these prospects. Especially if the Isles continue to rush some of these kids and continue to hire coaches like Cappy. If the Isles start doing the right things and hire the right coach these prospects may have a good chance. Wang and Snow have to understand just drafting these kids is only part of the process.
- ses111

You and I understand what you just posted, some will hate you for it. It's great to draft these kids that have potential but you need to develop them and develop them properly. Kabanov for example, I'd be much higher on him if I was a Devils fan. It has nothing to do with them being in the finals but thats a club that does it right. So far under this new regime, we don't. Plain and simple. Alot on here can hate me for that comment thats fine, but can anyone as a hockey fan say anything different? You can correct my spelling, call me an idiot, whatever suits your fancy? I'll be here in reality when you care to join me I'll be waiting...

You and I understand what you just posted, some will hate you for it. It's great to draft these kids that have potential but you need to develop them and develop them properly. Kabanov for example, I'd be much higher on him if I was a Devils fan. It has nothing to do with them being in the finals but thats a club that does it right. So far under this new regime, we don't. Plain and simple. Alot on here can hate me for that comment thats fine, but can anyone as a hockey fan say anything different? You can correct my spelling, call me an idiot, whatever suits your fancy? I'll be here in reality when you care to join me I'll be waiting...
- Cptmjl

People can hate but it's just telling it like it is. Snow and Wang have not done a good job at all with this team regardless of the situation. It's that simple whether someone likes it or not. If Wang and Snow have a strong offseason I will have no problem in praising them. It's the same for any of my teams.

People can hate but it's just telling it like it is. Snow and Wang have not done a good job at all with this team regardless of the situation. It's that simple whether someone likes it or not. If Wang and Snow have a strong offseason I will have no problem in praising them. It's the same for any of my teams.
- ses111

Exactly, my point being. I'm not going to sit here and say, "hey, these guys have done a good job" when they haven't. I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt, I already did that along with every other Islander fan. The simple fact is, they haven't. "rebuild" or otherwise they just have shown zero results. The "always next year crowd" at this point is laughable, they'll be saying the sam, "this is the last year I'll give Snow" song and dance, these same clowns were saying this last year! I give them credit. All I got to say is what I said last year, prove me wrong. And before anyone says this is a "rebuild" and theres no time frame, just stick it up your ass, glad you believe this BS notion.

Exactly, my point being. I'm not going to sit here and say, "hey, these guys have done a good job" when they haven't. I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt, I already did that along with every other Islander fan. The simple fact is, they haven't. "rebuild" or otherwise they just have shown zero results. The "always next year crowd" at this point is laughable, they'll be saying the sam, "this is the last year I'll give Snow" song and dance, these same clowns were saying this last year! I give them credit. All I got to say is what I said last year, prove me wrong. And before anyone says this is a "rebuild" and theres no time frame, just stick it up your ass, glad you believe this BS notion.
- Cptmjl

I'm not going to lie or BS, I took a pretty good swig of the kool-aid going into this past season. I liked our roster, give or take the supposed veterans we brought in. I wasn't a fan of getting Rolston or doing the Devils any favors by making that trade. Certainly not a fan of Pandolfo, but I thought our younger guys were ready to turn the corner. I knew the defense might be a little suspect, but......we all know we were a one-line team.

I'm not rehashing any of my old feelings of the past year, and I'm certainly not going to get into the way certain players performed once it was clear the playoffs weren't even the pipedream they were by Janaury (yet again) in March.

I agree with the both of you pretty much 100 percent. The ways our prospects are brought up are a joke. I don't know if they expect everyone to be as advanced as Tavares was from day one, but this throwing the sheep to the wolves mentality has to go. They (frank)ed Nino, but they did the right thing with Strome, for once.

It's tough to get excited about anything at this point, I'm that (frank)ing cynical. That's why, who knows about Kabanov? Who knows about any of them at this point? I get sick of writing this, and it has been awhile...as long as you-know-who is running this ship, we're all screwed. His mentality permeates the entire franchise. The sad thing is, we have to hope this all pans out, because it's not changing.

No. If he's not on Gretzky's level soon, he can blow me. By next year, too.
I expect our 3th round pick from 2 years ago to be as good as Nugent-Hopkins and Tavares by next year.
- potvin05

Lol. Nice one.
You can't expect every prospect to be a NHL #1 line player. Kabanov will benefit from year at ahl. It will be there he we could see if he has more to offer.

As for those thankful we didn't ruin strome yet? Oh we will. Strome wil be on this years roster instead of back in juniors another year.